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    Default Re: Full length super cub wings on a sort wing piper

    What are the folks that are "building" producers using for plans? or are they just modifying factory pacers?
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    I'm building an experimental Pacer right now and I was curious if you guys know of someone who has increased the gross weight of a Pacer. Do the producers have a 2000 lb gross weight?

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    Default Re: Full length super cub wings on a sort wing piper

    what is the latest AD on wing strut forks anybody?

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    Default Re: Full length super cub wings on a sort wing piper

    Federal Register Information

    Header Information
    DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION


    Federal Aviation Administration


    14 CFR Part 39

    [Docket No. FAA-2014-1083; Directorate Identifier 2014-CE-036-AD; Amendment 39-18140; AD 2015-08-04]


    RIN 2120-AA64

    Airworthiness Directives; Various Aircraft Equipped With Wing Lift Struts
    PDF Copy (If Available):

    Last edited by Gilbert Pierce; 11-19-2016 at 04:40 PM.

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    Default Re: Full length super cub wings on a sort wing piper

    Who's a good reputable shop that can NDI the forks?

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    Default Re: Full length super cub wings on a sort wing piper

    Quote Originally Posted by AKJurnee View Post
    Who's a good reputable shop that can NDI the forks?
    Univair does them.

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    Default Re: Full length super cub wings on a sort wing piper

    Quote Originally Posted by pistoncan View Post
    What are the folks that are "building" producers using for plans? or are they just modifying factory pacers?
    The Producer is an STC'd modification done by Steve Bryant.

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    Default Re: Full length super cub wings on a sort wing piper

    I realize that this post is quite a few months old now but would Pa-14 or Pa-18 wings that are squared off at the ailerons with either no tip, splates or perhaps the shorter Dakota Cub tip work on a stock length fuselage experimental Pacer equipped with SC horizontal stabilizer and elevator? Removing the bow tips would take off a combined length of 56". This would give you a total wing length not including the fuselage width of 352". A stock Pacer wing with the bow tips is around 304". The Pa-14 wings would be ideal with the larger flaps and the internal aileron control cables. Would having the squared off wing increase the roll rate due to the aileron being located at the tip?

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    Default Re: Full length super cub wings on a sort wing piper

    Quote Originally Posted by cook11 View Post
    I realize that this post is quite a few months old now but would Pa-14 or Pa-18 wings that are squared off at the ailerons with either no tip, splates or perhaps the shorter Dakota Cub tip work on a stock length fuselage experimental Pacer equipped with SC horizontal stabilizer and elevator? Removing the bow tips would take off a combined length of 56". This would give you a total wing length not including the fuselage width of 352". A stock Pacer wing with the bow tips is around 304". The Pa-14 wings would be ideal with the larger flaps and the internal aileron control cables. Would having the squared off wing increase the roll rate due to the aileron being located at the tip?
    In general ailerons further outboard will increase roll rate. The 14 has a different aileron because of the ailerons leading edge which apparently is an improvement. Lengthening your wings to what sounds like about 33 feet, even if you install 18 elevators, may run out of elevator without lengthening the fuselage. The 14 wing is rare and may be difficult to find unless you build your own.
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