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    Quote Originally Posted by tnowak View Post
    Hi Jim,

    That is interesting. I have never looked at the placard requirements before but we would say "aerobatics".
    I Googled the meaning of acrobatics and couldn't find any reference to flying activities.

    For example:
    "Acrobatic describes something that's an amazing physical feat, especially if it involves agility and balance. An acrobatic dance routine might include back flips and handstands.
    If you're acrobatic, you're good at gymnastics or physical circus tricks. A border collie might make a particularly acrobatic Frisbee catch, twisting and spinning in the air, and a little boy could perform acrobatic cartwheels across the living room. The adjective comes from acrobat, which in French — acrobate — means "tightrope walker," from a Greek word, akrobates, "rope dancer," related to akrobatos, "going on tip toe" or "climbing up high."

    Nearest flying reference in the above description is what the border collie dog does!
    TonyN


    "acrobatic" can correctly be used to describe a person, cat, airplane, etc... performing "acrobatics". ... In my opinion, acrobatic is more related to a person, "One who is skilled in feats of balance and agility in gymnastics". However, aerobatic relates to maneuvers on the air

    Source Google

    The Way Im reading it is, Aerobatics is a aircraft performing maneuvers, Acrobatic is a person (Pilot?) performing maneuvers.


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    Jared
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    Quote Originally Posted by piperrocks2013 View Post
    The Way Im reading it is, Aerobatics is a aircraft performing maneuvers, Acrobatic is a person (Pilot?) performing maneuvers.


    Cheers
    Jared
    But you are thinking logically Jared and Tony, we are talking about the FAA here!

    The same agency that takes away a flight crew's scissors but requires them to have a crash axe on the flight deck. Here are the Canadian and US categories:
    (Canada has aerobatic aeroplanes, the US has acrobatic aircraft!)

    https://www.tc.gc.ca/eng/civilaviati...ub-ab-2061.htm

    http://www.risingup.com/fars/info/part23-3-FAR.shtml
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    "The same agency that takes away a flight crew's scissors but requires them to have a crash axe on the flight deck."

    Jim, this would be so funny if it wouldn't be also so sad.

    Juergen
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    Did anyone have their computers crash or be blocked out after watching Jared first video here?

    Mine did and it's a Mac

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    Did anyone have their computers crash or be blocked out after watching Jared first video here?

    Mine did and it's a Mac

    Peter
    Negative Peter Im using my Mac. No issues at all. Is your Adobe Flash up to date, Java, and Safari or Firefox?? Make sure all been updated and try again. Let me know

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    Jared,

    Mr Piper must have been thinking the same!
    Yesterday I found the drawing (off the CD) for my Vagabond's placards.
    Clearly states ...ACROBATICS, so I won't be performing any acrobatic in the cockpit!
    TonyN

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    Quote Originally Posted by tnowak View Post
    Jared,

    Mr Piper must have been thinking the same!
    Yesterday I found the drawing (off the CD) for my Vagabond's placards.
    Clearly states ...ACROBATICS, so I won't be performing any acrobatic in the cockpit!
    TonyN
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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterL View Post
    Did anyone have their computers crash or be blocked out after watching Jared first video here?

    Mine did and it's a Mac

    Peter
    Just watched it again on my MacBook Pro, no issues.
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    Acrobatics or aerobatics: The way I remember Dad talking about Acrobatics when he was young in the late 1920's, 1930's and I remember the 1950's there was not the word Aerobatics. Aerobatic is a new word invented I believe maybe in the late 1950's or maybe a little later.

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