Garmin WEBINAR of 10/17/2017

[Homer Landreth]

Last night GARMIN gave a much publicized WEBINAR which was titled "Low Cost ADS-B, Instruments and Avionics" I tuned in on it because it was advertised that you could ask questions. So I did. Here are a couple of my observations and comments. First, it turned out to be largely a marketing ploy. They started with the G5, and passed through all the ADSB Out and In equipment they have and then they tried to market their new Auto Pilot. So it really wasn't a tremendously viable thing to watch, but here are a couple of comments they presented and a question or two answered.

1. They started "hustling" the G5. Some interesting things.
(1). The G5 has a version for Certified aircraft and quoting them "one for Experimental and LSA". To that I asked my usual question of
"where in the Regs does it say specifically "Experimental and say LSA have some kind of exemption." To that they answered what
everybody says "It is in the FARs". (Well, as stated before and admitted to by ACO persons, "It ain't there", so that was a dead issue
and as usual unanswered.

(2). I asked "What is the difference between the "for certified aircraft" G5 and the "for LSA and Experimental aircraft" G5 ? The answer
was "The two units are absolutely the same, there is no difference, with the "certified" version you just get the paperwork that
certifies it as PMA/STC qualified.

(2a). So I asked this "That being the case then I would not need your STC and could install one in a certified aircraft via an FAA
337 with you writing a letter of conformity stating what you just said (they are identical). After a long time with no answer, they
came back and agreed that I was correct, however they stated they would not provide that letter of conformity for the purpose
of an FAA 337 field approval of the non PMA/STC "version" into a certified plane.

(3). The G5 DOES NOT allow you to eliminate your Vacuum System. HOWEVER, a two G5 installation will allow you to eliminate your
vacuum system.

2. All ADS-B equipment from Garmin can be purchased from a dealer and installed by any licensed A&P. The installation will have to be registered with them for warranty purposes so the installers license number is the sign off and registration requirement for warranty purposes.
(1). They did however "market" the dealers capability to probably get it done faster than the average A&P.
(2). They also said this" You need to get your ADS-B Installation as soon as you can because as 2020 approaches, the cost of installation is going to go through the
roof (supply, demand, sense of urgency).
(3). Of all the ADS-B equipment they talked about, the "off the shelf equipment purchase" lowest cost was over $ 3500.00. That being the case, a Garmin system in
your plane will probably flirt with $ 4500.00 to $ 5,000.00.

Anyway, that is a few highlights, they have a Garmin Autopilot that is aimed at planes like ours, I didn't pay a lot of attention to that part, I was Googling the address of all the banks and Quick Trip stores I could stick up during the night to get the money for the "low cost" Garmin ADS-B equipment.

[wyandot jim]

" I was Googling the address of all the banks and Quick Trip stores I could stick up during the night to get the money for the "low cost" Garmin ADS-B equipment. "

Homer do you need some help picking up the money??????????

[Old3pacer]

I laughed through the entire presentation at the enthusiasm of the marketing director. He clearly had no extensive knowledge outside the garmin propaganda. His least expensive option is not being shipped currently but they "expect" it by year's end.
AL

[liveslow]

Sounds similar to the live event I attended a few weeks ago at a local fbo. I am considering the GDL82, but also not sure how long my trusty kt76 will continue to function.

http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalo...ps11-15319.php

[gliderman]

Only 4-5 k
wanna trade? just had a quote from an avionics shop here in the great white north- North of 7k.....

[Jim Hann]

Only 4-5 k
wanna trade? just had a quote from an avionics shop here in the great white north- North of 7k.....

I just picked up 43D after having a GTX 335 1090ES (out only) installed along with an ACK 30.9 encoder, after the rebates I was just over $4k. The IA who did the install had not done a Garmin before so that cost me a little but he also ate some of the extra time from learning the G way.

My KT-78A died again when I left for Oshkosh back in July, I was hoping to keep it going at least another year in hopes that prices would come down. Oh well, it is done now, based 8 miles from KSTL isn't much fun some times.