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PA-16 Bushmaster fuselage
I recently acquired a PA-16 converted Bushmaster fuselage. The project came to me from an old friend and pilot who purchased the modified fuselage a few years ago from an A&P in MN. I have tried to contact the mechanic in hopes of acquiring his drawings but I'm unable to reach him. Does someone have a set of Bushmaster drawings I can purchase? Thank you.
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Re: PA-16 Bushmaster fuselage
James Smith has the STC and drawing. You can do a search on this site and get the information. I don't think the 16 is covered in the STC.....yet. If you are going experimental there is lots of information about that choice on this site. Plans for experimental might be more difficult to acquire. You basically need to find out how to lengthen and reinforce the wing. The stretch Pacers are usually called Super Pacers or Stretched Pacer.
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PA-16 Bushmaster fuselage
A number of tubes in the PA-16 fuselage are smaller than the PA-20 or PA-22. One of the reasons for only 1650 gross weight. You might want to do a comparison before you start cutting. If you plan on flaps, the PA-16 didn’t have any and the PA-22 system won’t work as the stick controls are where the flap controls would go. Aileron cables go up the struts like a SuperCub, not inside the wings like a PA-22. Gear is totally different with lighter tubing. Lots of differences that would need to be sorted out.
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Last edited by dgapilot; 04-23-2023 at 07:15 AM.
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Re: PA-16 Bushmaster fuselage
Originally Posted by
dgapilot
A number of tubes in the PA-16 fuselage are smaller than the PA-20 or PA-22. One of the reasons for only 1650 gross weight. You might want to do a comparison before you start cutting. If you plan on flaps, the PA-16 didn’t have any and the PA-22 system won’t work as the stick controls are where the flap controls would go. Aileron cables go up the struts like a SuperCub, not inside the wings like a PA-22. Gear is totally different with lighter tubing. Lots of differences that would need to be sorted out.
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If it is experimental, I would run the flap cables forward and have an overhead flap handle. Remove the headliner and install a skylight. Then offset the trim. It should be easy and save weight. I think his fuselage is stretched already and he has a landing gear modification. I agree the fuselage should be evaluated for loads, especially the landing gear attachment tubes.
"You can only tie the record for flying low."
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Re: PA-16 Bushmaster fuselage
Originally Posted by
Stephen
If it is experimental, I would run the flap cables forward and have an overhead flap handle. Remove the headliner and install a skylight. Then offset the trim. It should be easy and save weight. I think his fuselage is stretched already and he has a landing gear modification. I agree the fuselage should be evaluated for loads, especially the landing gear attachment tubes.
For the landing gear I would do the Trimmer SC gear rather than keep the Clipper gear. The truss for the gear is where 2 of the tubes are smaller, for my GW STC they are being replaced to match the PA-20/22 truss. The tube aft of the rear seat is also being replaced with same size as the PA-22 but that is for possible future float installation. Aft fuselage is fine as is. The Clipper was only a 1650 gross airplane. All the higher gross airplanes have the Z channel welded in the forward struts. I'm modifying forward PA-22 struts for my GW increase on the PA-16. On mine I'm only going to 1750. The PA-20 and PA-22 have larger doublers/reinforcements art the spar/strut attach. Depending on what wings, hopefully the drawings show adequate reinforcement there if he starts with Clipper wings.
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Re: PA-16 Bushmaster fuselage
Originally Posted by
Stephen
If it is experimental, I would run the flap cables forward and have an overhead flap handle.
Luscombe and Cub Crafters use a torque at the flap handle across he top of the fuselage with bell cranks running rods through the wing roots back to the flaps. Eliminates cables and is pretty clean.
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Re: PA-16 Bushmaster fuselage
Originally Posted by
dgapilot
For the landing gear I would do the Trimmer SC gear rather than keep the Clipper gear. The truss for the gear is where 2 of the tubes are smaller, for my GW STC they are being replaced to match the PA-20/22 truss. The tube aft of the rear seat is also being replaced with same size as the PA-22 but that is for possible future float installation. Aft fuselage is fine as is. The Clipper was only a 1650 gross airplane. All the higher gross airplanes have the Z channel welded in the forward struts. I'm modifying forward PA-22 struts for my GW increase on the PA-16. On mine I'm only going to 1750. The PA-20 and PA-22 have larger doublers/reinforcements art the spar/strut attach. Depending on what wings, hopefully the drawings show adequate reinforcement there if he starts with Clipper wings.
In the Trimmer STC, you get to beef up the front attachment cross member and the left side vertical post in the PA 22.
"You can only tie the record for flying low."
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Re: PA-16 Bushmaster fuselage
Originally Posted by
Garry B
I recently acquired a PA-16 converted Bushmaster fuselage. The project came to me from an old friend and pilot who purchased the modified fuselage a few years ago from an A&P in MN. I have tried to contact the mechanic in hopes of acquiring his drawings but I'm unable to reach him. Does someone have a set of Bushmaster drawings I can purchase? Thank you.
Thank you for your responses. I'm wondering if anyone knows of the builder - Dean Christanson from International Falls, MN. And I believe he is an A&P. I have been unsuccessful in contacting him.
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