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    Interesting comments! All of you are correct to some extent...no intent to imply sexism by Clyde Smith or Piper. All the PA-20's, and the 1951 PA-22 have the short throw pulley and cable system. I just talked to Clyde Smith in Lock Haven again, and he explained because the initial 1951 Tri-Pacers have the rudder and nosewheel connections, the aileron forces were considerably greater than the Pacer, and even those pilots with strong upper bodies were needing to put in some muscle to fly it. So starting the next model year, Piper went to the chain and sprocket gearing with more wheel throw to improve the model acceptance for all less brawny pilots (note the "W" word was avoided). Anyone out there flown a 1951 Tri-Pacer and compared it to a 1952-up Tri-Pacer? I'd be curious to know just how much the difference is. Anyway, when you convert the Tri-Pacer to the Pacer and get rid of the rudder spring interconnect and the nosewheel connection, the need for all that extra control wheel throw goes away, and going to the shorter gearing actually completes an otherwise incomplete conversion of the PA-22 to the PA-22/20.

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    Thanks for the follow up. That all makes sense now.

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    Does anyone know where can I find a cable yoke or can the chain drive be adapted to mimic the early Pacers?

    Lou

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lownslow
    Does anyone know where can I find a cable yoke or can the chain drive be adapted to mimic the early Pacers?

    Lou
    I have to apoligize to a couple people who wrote to me via PM as to the cable drives. I just noticed I had two messages today. (ONLY 2 to 5 months late) I still have one. I would have to bow to Steves expertice as to what would be a fair price for the setup, but its available.

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    I know this is a really OLD post but I finally got around to removing the cable yokes from the 51 pacer doner fuselage I am using. (yep, life gets in the way) The bushings appear to be good and the cable is greasy and dusty but no sign of rust. I still don't know what to ask for them so if someone wishes to make an offer, I would listen, If not, I will list them on ebay. Thanks Gary.
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    My 1954 PA-20 has cables and no sprockets. It is not as light on the ailerons as PA-22. Until now I never realizied there was a differance in the gearing. Pete Z

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    Quote Originally Posted by pistoncan View Post
    I know this is a really OLD post but I finally got around to removing the cable yokes from the 51 pacer doner fuselage I am using. (yep, life gets in the way) The bushings appear to be good and the cable is greasy and dusty but no sign of rust. I still don't know what to ask for them so if someone wishes to make an offer, I would listen, If not, I will list them on ebay. Thanks Gary.
    I listed them on ebay with a starting bid of 200.00 buy it now at 250.00

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    Would anyone know a source for the "bicycle chain"? I think it is part 13415-05. Is it literally a chain from a bicycle?

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