Got my marching order from the FAA. Need as many examples of PA15
Gross weight increases, I have 3 now, N4669H, N4534H, and C-FINC.
Gilbert, does yours have any documentation?
Anybody have "the letter" from Wes Holmes, Service Manager, Piper Aircraft,
Lock Haven, PA approving the increase?
Last edited by d.grimm; 01-23-2012 at 08:39 PM.
Unfortunately the only documentation I have is a log book entry in 1950 that they installed dual controls with Piper parts. That would be consistent with the TCDS item. It was still listed as a PA-15 until January of 54.
In 1951 relicense it was a PA15. No entries in 52 or 53.
In January 54 is a 337 to rebuild the airplane. The 337 lists it as a PA17 for the first time and FAA Relicense form of the same date lists it as a PA17. The relicense form lists the gross wt. as 1150 lbs. I have the FAA CD that does not help much. N4331H
That is all I have.
The guy I bought my PA-17 from (actually I got if from the insurance company wrecked but) , also had a beautiful -15 with colt wings, 36 gal fuel, full IFR panel, leather interior, and from what I could see, if he actually sat in it, it was over gross. He was a real big guy. I think to stay legal he could have about five gal of fuel on board. Beautiful though.
Well good news thanks to Gilbert.
Looks like a Model change is a lot easier than the dreaded gross weight increase.
My FAA guy (bless his heart) found a pre 1955, 337 for a model change to a PA17.
Working on the Field Approval/337 now for the sex change from PA15 to PA17 and the resulting gross weight increase.
Last edited by d.grimm; 02-17-2012 at 08:21 AM. Reason: opps! sent to wrong place
Looks like a gross weight increase by model change.
You ain't kidding. Where is this guy?
"I am looking for a Piper Letter dated 11-15-67"
Not the same date but seems to say the right thing. (Check Attachments)
Ran across this doing a record check on a Vag that Dave Grimm talked with owner about the GW increase.
I got the CD from FAA on this airplane and letter did not accompany the 337.
"Progress is our most important problem"
Andy, can you obtain/scan a hard/PDF copy of this letter?