Expired registration and Re-registration

[Tyler Arnold]

Purchased a PA-22-108 from my old flight instructor. He's in his 80s and has dementia. I told his son sometime last year that the airplane had been deregistered and it needed to be dealt with. Fast forward to a few weeks back and they called and offered me to buy the airplane.

The plane has not been in annual since 2020, and since he had dementia, he did not renew the registration Cancellation date on the number was 06/05/2021.

I made a deal with him and the family, finished the paperwork on it 01/27/2023 and mailed everything off.
We did a 8050-2 (Bill of Sale) then I filled out the 8050-1 (Aircraft registration application) and sent all of that with $5 to the FAA.

I filled out the Bill of sale with the N number of the aircraft and now im reading conflicting things about the aircraft being deregistered that the A/W Cert is useless and that the N Number might be in limbo?

Im hoping it goes through smoothly and gets reregistered as it was before since it was cancelled due to expiring..

Anyone dealt with similar? :???:

[Steve Pierce]

Call OK City first thing in the morning if you want a quick answer.

[Troy Hamon]

I use Aerospace Reports to deal with FAA paperwork issues. They can walk across the street and talk to a real person and they know this stuff inside and out.

[Old3pacer]

I second the idea of using one of the title work companies-
also use COVID as an excuse/ reason for exception
I understand FAA is lengthening the registration period
for future registrations

[Tyler Arnold]

If I end up having any issues, I might have to do that or Ill go to OKC myself and see if they will talk with me.

[Glen Geller]

Hi Tyler,
You can look up most airplanes - certainly Shortwing Pipers - by serial number.
For example, my Tri-Pacer is 22-3020, I enter it and up pops the info.
This may be helpful information to share with the FAA reps to indicate some relevant history of your Colt.

https://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinquiry/Search/SerialNumberInquiry

Good luck,
GG

[Tyler Arnold]

Hi Tyler,
You can look up most airplanes - certainly Shortwing Pipers - by serial number.
For example, my Tri-Pacer is 22-3020, I enter it and up pops the info.
This may be helpful information to share with the FAA reps to indicate some relevant history of your Colt.

https://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinquiry/Search/SerialNumberInquiry

Good luck,
GG


I’ve got all of that info, SN, airworthiness etc. Tt’s not a basket case, in fact It was flying until 20’ till the previous owner could not fly anymore. If it wasn’t for the engine I could annual it and fly it.

I tried to call OKC today and didn’t have any luck. By the way they are 4 months behind on registrations.

guess I’ll find out in a few months when they get my paperwork.

[dgapilot]

4 months? You might want to check again, I sent in my registration request in August, still don’t have my registration.


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[ysifly2]

I’m waiting on a registration from a purchase as well. Just noticed this update on the FAA site… good to operate on the “pink” slip for 12 months.


“We are processing documents received on approximately August 26, 2022.
The Registry will no longer issue letters of extension, effective January 23, 2023. The FAA revised 14 CFR 47.31(c)(1) removing the time limit within which the FAA must either issue a letter extending the temporary authority to continue to operate or deny the application. The Aircraft Registration Application (“Pink Copy”) is valid until the applicant receives the aircraft registration certificate, application is denied by the FAA, or 12 months have elapsed during which the registration is pending on the aircraft.”

https://www.faa.gov/licenses_certificates/aircraft_certification/aircraft_registry/



Bryan


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[dgapilot]

Just remember that the temporary is no good for any certification activity including ferry permits!


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[Steve Pierce]

Just remember that the temporary is no good for any certification activity including ferry permits!


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A friend bought a Maule recently in Alaska and got one of those title companies in OK City to expedite the registration so he could get through Canada.