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    Default Rudder w/Brake pedals

    ISO rudder pedals with brake pedals for Pa 22/20. 334-678-6990. Thanks!

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    Default Re: Rudder w/Brake pedals

    You looking for the Williams system or Univair? Pilot side brakes or both sides?

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    Default Re: Rudder w/Brake pedals

    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Pierce View Post
    You looking for the Williams system or Univair? Pilot side brakes or both sides?
    Hello Steve,
    The conversion was Univair with the attached pedals. C2657E30-116E-412E-A050-5FBABF14C3CD.jpeg
    I need them for the right side.

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    Default Re: Rudder w/Brake pedals

    Thos look like factory Piper pedals for the Clipper and Pacer. You are wanting pedals, master cylinders and hoses to have brake pedals on both sides?

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    Steve, do you know if anyone has fabricated the 11726 rudder pedal assembly, cut the tops off the right side pedals and welded the bushings on to make a Vagabond/Clipper/left side only Pacer conform to the 12557 dual brake setup from the Pacer? The hardest thing I see is forming the 4” radius in the 5/8X.058 wall tubing. Fuselage changes for mounts are easy, then finding suitable master cylinders for the right that FAA will accept is the next hurdle.


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    Default Re: Rudder w/Brake pedals

    Grove makes a certified master cylinder for the Maul that I believe is an exact fit on the left side. http://www.groveaircraft.com/mcintegral.html
    http://www.groveaircraft.com/mcpma.html
    In any event Robbie Grove can reproduce the exact cylinder and it can be installed under 21.203(b)(2) owner produced part in my opinion.
    Last edited by Gilbert Pierce; 12-02-2019 at 12:06 PM.

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    Default Re: Rudder w/Brake pedals

    Quote Originally Posted by dgapilot View Post
    Steve, do you know if anyone has fabricated the 11726 rudder pedal assembly, cut the tops off the right side pedals and welded the bushings on to make a Vagabond/Clipper/left side only Pacer conform to the 12557 dual brake setup from the Pacer? The hardest thing I see is forming the 4” radius in the 5/8X.058 wall tubing. Fuselage changes for mounts are easy, then finding suitable master cylinders for the right that FAA will accept is the next hurdle.


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    I created the radius by heating and slowly bending the tube over a preformed arc. I didn't take long.
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    I’m guessing one more field approval to work on!


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    Default Re: Rudder w/Brake pedals

    I have the hoses, fittings and cylinders etc. I just need the pedals for the right side. Thought if I could find some ready to go it would be quicker than Fabricating.

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    Default Re: Rudder w/Brake pedals

    Does your right side have the "T" cross tube welded to the top, or the bushings to mount the pedel assembly? If you have the T rudder pedels, you will need to cut the cross tube off each of the pedals and weld on the bushing just like the left side. Otherwise, you are replacing the entire assembly out of another Pacer that came with the dual brake option.

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