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    This is one of the most loaded questions there is. What my plane indicates can be vastly different from yours. I am at sea level and cooler temps. Altitude and temps, weight etc all play a huge part in performance and "numbers flown" What works for me probably wont work for you. Putting gas through the tanks is the only way you will figure it out.

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    Very nice review. I'd forgotten the quick and dirty "VA and VREF adjust for weight" formula. Also good to note that VX and VY change with altitude, until at absolute ceiling they come together. No published "VX or "VY" figure in my POH, but takeoff/obstacle charts are based on 66MPH climb to 50 feet, and "climb speed is 84MPH, so I think those are good entering argument numbers.

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    Again its subjective. With VGs, big tires, prop, gear covered or uncovered?? All these play into your aircraft performance. I can kick the crap out of the performance charts for my plane in everything but speed. The empty weights also vary pretty drastically. One thing the short wings show drastically is weight. The numbers difference in a 180 or cub are noticeable between flying solo and gross. Our beloved shortwings have drastically different performance solo versus gross. I can tell a huge difference in take off solo and 1 tank verses both tanks full.

    This is why I cringe when one asks what numbers someone else uses. There are so many variables that its pretty much a question that cant be truthfully answered.

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    Default Re: wheel landings

    I have flown a lot of different Short Wings and indicated airspeeds are all over the place. Variables in individual airspeed indicators and pitot/static systems are a big part of the variance I believe. No substitution for time in the seat and feel. I fly at least once a week and both on Saturday and Monday was amazing air. I noticed the altimeter setting was high and the airplane knew it. The two previous weekends were low pressure, hot, humid and choppy air, poor performance. I can fly lots of airplanes but am never as comfortable as I am in mine.

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    I start to sink below 60 indicated and the tail will drop causing a tail low wheel landing. I am talking about not touching the wheel until you come to a full stop . As AKFLYER pointed out lots of variables. Airspeed indicators are not a calibrated instrument on our planes . I have 2700 feet to use but Im always off at the first exit which according to Google maps is 1091 feet . But by the time I get there I have taxied a few hundred feet . But I am on the brakes to do that

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