Spins ????

[Frank Green]

I believe you will find it on the TCDS the official document for all certified aircraft and I can say personally i once screwed up a wing over with a aft cg (back seat passenger) and recovery from the unintended spin was no big deal.

[anthonyp]

I believe you will find it on the TCDS the official document for all certified aircraft and I can say personally i once screwed up a wing over with a aft cg (back seat passenger) and recovery from the unintended spin was no big deal.

Thank you for the quick reply. I now see that the TCDS refers to spins as such: "Operate in Normal Category in compliance with approved Flight Manual. Acrobatics (including spins) prohibited"

Do you know if there is there anything on spirals by chance?

[anthonyp]

Upon further investigation, it looks like the PA-22-150 can be approved for intentional spins in the Utility Category so long as a control modification kit is installed.

"Note 2 (g) On the instrument panel in full view of the pilot when Item 407 is installed: (1) "Operate in Normal or Utility Category in compliance with the approved Flight Manual. Airplane marked for Normal Category. Acrobatics (including spins) prohibited in Normal Category"

"NOTE 3. Serial Nos. 22-3218, 22-3387 and up, of Model PA-22-150 or PA-22-160, are eligible to be operated as a Normal or Utility Category Airplane in compliance with the approved Airplane Flight Manual provided Item 407 (Control modification kit) is installed. Propeller Item 6 is not eligible when Item 407 is installed."

[dgapilot]

You need the kit for Utility and the Flight Manual Supplement to legally do spins. Even at that, it’s hard to actually get a PA-22 to spin unless you really pull the nose up for the stall.


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[Subsonic]

I'm interested in trying to spin my PA22-150. I have the TCDS Item 407 mod. Question: Must you wear a parachute if intentionally attempting to spin?

[Gilbert Pierce]

Googled it:
https://www.eaa.org/eaa/aircraft-building/intro-to-aircraft-building/frequently-asked-questions/parachutes-during-aerobatics

Do you need a parachute to do spins?



Yet even though parachutes are not required for spin training, it is recommended that they be worn nonetheless, if available. Many other all-attitude training maneuvers will necessarily exceed 30 degrees of pitch and 60 degrees of bank; therefore, parachutes will be required.



https://www.faasafety.gov › mar › g...

Guidelines For Pilots Seeking All Attitude Training - FAA SafetyYet even though parachutes are not required for spin training, it is recommended that they be worn nonetheless, if available. Many other all-attitude training maneuvers will necessarily exceed 30 degrees of pitch and 60 degrees of bank; therefore, parachutes will be required.

[6PapaWhiskey]

Per 14 CFR 91.307, if you are solo, no parachute is required:

https://www.eaa.org/eaa/aircraft-bui...ing-aerobatics